Curse

Malice Black · Apr 14, 2008, 11:27 PM // 23:27

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Originally Posted by Lothlorian Sassun

Yes. I used to get them constantly several months ago. Mainly in the Main towns like Lions Arch, Kamadan, Shing Jea, and The Temple of Bathazar. Lots of people play GW so im sure there are people that are lucky enough not to get one.

I personally have not got a PM since the return of Taiwan. But I have noticed an increase in WTB GW Accounts Spam.

I never go to those places unless I'm buying/selling.

Bryant Again · Apr 14, 2008, 11:29 PM // 23:29

Amon, weren't you one of the people who got screwed over recently because of the RTM policies or some such? I remember you saying you couldn't play anymore.

I'm curious because you're the type of people I *wouldn't* want to screw over.

Esan · Apr 14, 2008, 11:34 PM // 23:34

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Originally Posted by Risus

They are running on 10 hour free trials...

(a) So freaking what? And, (b) Anet can ban by IP now.

OOshadeOO · Apr 14, 2008, 11:40 PM // 23:40

w t s7=5k yay i finaly get title

Ctb · Apr 14, 2008, 11:41 PM // 23:41

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Asking for a single territory to be blocked is a knee jerk reaction that fails to see the whole picture.

It's up to the developer to get better defense strategies and the players NOT to buy the damn gold. It's also up to us to report these problems.

Except, as a player I'd rather just pay some extra monthly fee to have access to a server that blocks Asian IPs. I'm playing a video game here, not fighting the Combine for the freedom of humanity. If people start getting executed for RMT, let me know and I'll get all up in arms... until then... if entire regions are causing significant annoyance, my attitude is easily summed up with "F**k 'em".

Like it or lump it, Asian-sourced IPs are the vast majority of troublemakers because social, economic, and legal conditions allow for RMT-shops to set up and operate easily in those regions. I'd rather they were just banned entirely. If legitimate players in those regions want to play with everyone else, they should lean on their fellow players to lighten up on the insane level of MMO gaming and on their governments (at least where that can be safely done... South Korea I'm looking in your direction) to cooperate more with outside companies to prosecute and isolate offenders.

Ban them all. I don't care. I don't have a problem playing with Asian people, but I do have a problem with the region as a whole since it's constantly causing so many problems in so many different games.

OOshadeOO · Apr 14, 2008, 11:42 PM // 23:42

wilthe sites would be able to get money from gw even with taiwan banned

Amon Warrior · Apr 14, 2008, 11:56 PM // 23:56

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again

Amon, weren't you one of the people who got screwed over recently because of the RTM policies or some such? I remember you saying you couldn't play anymore.

I'm curious because you're the type of people I *wouldn't* want to screw over.

Yup. Let me get a background here. I'm from Europe and I happen to be working in mainland China. After playing for more than 2 years like that, last March I was suddenly unable to access GW. Support services at the time told me it was because of a Chinese government block. That indication was bogus and they later took back that statement when it became apparent it had been because of RMT policy trials.

Later, by the end of March, I got permanently banned - no indication on why that happened. They finally figured out I was legitimate, after further interaction with support. Then my wife, who is Chinese and plays the game a lot more than me, got a temp ban twice in two weeks. After more interactions with support, that was resolved as well. It's been 3 weeks and it's been quiet lately; I would hope it stays that way.

When that happened to me I got naturally upset, but then support services have been competent in handling the situation and I'm sympathetic with Anet's RMT enforcement policies.

-Sonata- · Apr 15, 2008, 04:17 AM // 04:17

Because I'm a gamer at heart <3 and I now and then try out a game I've never downloaded before, last night I decided to try Cabal. It's something I do a lot. Find a new game somewhere (new for me anyways :P) and give it a try.

I immediately uninstalled it after 5 minutes. Why? There were 18 spam bots, all at once, spamming the trade, world, and local channels. Yes, that's right - 18 at once. It could have been more, but my best count was 18.

While I'm all for ridding the world of RMT gold spammers and account buyers,when I run into a game like Cabal (and there are plenty more like this who have an infestation of spam), who do nothing to stop it at all, I'm reminded that we really do have it good here in Guild Wars. Yes, for me, even one whisper is too much, but I've realized long ago that even a few will slip by in even the best guarded games.

I will accept my random, maybe once or twice a month, whisper of spam in Guild Wars over the wretched states of other games I see any day of the week. At least in Guild Wars I see the results of action being taken by the PowersThatBe and I know my /report works.

Pleikki · Apr 15, 2008, 04:17 AM // 04:17

mm Yeah i was suprised yesterday in kamadan for whisper cause havent got one for couple weeks. but i dont think its from taiwan.

credit · Apr 15, 2008, 04:45 AM // 04:45

Could someone please tell me why getting a random whisper once in a blue moon is so "terrible?"

Alex Morningstar · Apr 15, 2008, 05:06 AM // 05:06

Legitmate Taiwan players being able to play > QQing over occasional whispers in the trade hubs.

Save your rage for the /report feature. No one cares.

carnage-runner · Apr 15, 2008, 05:27 AM // 05:27

YAY RACISM!!! A "group", lets call them today, has been accused of harboring "bad", lets call them, GW community members. It's been connected with the return of Taiwan. Look at some facts:

1) Taiwan goes away, whispers go away
2) Taiwan comes back, whispers come back

Don't pull the racist card because it's juvenile. Don't overlook obvious observations because it is very stupid. Taiwan is doing what we all can see... I WANT THIS RTM SH!T IN EFFECT SO THAT THEY CHANGE THIS STUPID F---ING DROP RATE!!!! So that i can make some money for once in a while.

The Red Messenger · Apr 15, 2008, 05:36 AM // 05:36

Yes, i noticed it.

Had no whispers since the IP ban parade, had my first recent whisper in kamadan, yesterday.

Hope this was a one time thing

Master Knightfall · Apr 15, 2008, 05:46 AM // 05:46

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Originally Posted by evilseabass

Anyone else notice in the last week that the whisper bots have returned to the highly populated towns like Kamadan, LA and Great Temple of Balthazar?

These whisper bots are promoting gold-selling websites as usual, so I've been reporting each one.

Funny how these bots came back almost immediately after the Taiwan region was reconnected to the rest of the Guildwars population.

Coincidence? I think not...

Yup same thing is happening to me and I didn't get a single whisper until they let Taiwan back in. Please Anet make them just play on their own server in their own country why punish the rest of the world with this mess?

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"They"?
What is this - "I can be a racist idiot too - lesson 1"?

There is a bot issue.
Not a Taiwanese issue.
Any chance of getting that though our thick heads?

Lets get this through your thick head behind every bot is a person and in this case they are taiwanese, no racism just facts. There is no doubt where the whispers are coming from, but, not saying this is the only country, just the main one. Taiwanese!

guolisong · Apr 15, 2008, 06:18 AM // 06:18

Maybe it's just people can't let go of the cheap deals hm? Stares at Hot Spring Campers.

Master Knightfall · Apr 15, 2008, 06:42 AM // 06:42

I think it's pretty sad that everytime you enter the game now you nearly always have to go into "do not disturb" mode or "offline". This is my status now until I am wanting to buy or trade something. I've given up on Anet fixing anything, they had a fix (Taiwan banned) and then reversed it.

What they need to do is quite simple. Make it where no one can whisper you unless they are in your friends list or you have the trade channel on/open or have a LFG tag out. Then we wouldn't even need an ignore list really, cept I guess for the griefers that would hang around in the trade channel spamming everyone.

Macks Mistress · Apr 15, 2008, 07:11 AM // 07:11

^ That idea isn't so bad. As long as I can toggle it on and off.

cgruber · Apr 15, 2008, 07:14 AM // 07:14

agree that better chat filtering would help. I wish I could set myself as perma-offline (with the option of toggling it back to online) instead of having to constantly set it in the Friends list.

Akuma · Apr 15, 2008, 07:15 AM // 07:15

herd therz sum racism heer

upier · Apr 15, 2008, 07:15 AM // 07:15

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Originally Posted by Master Knightfall

Lets get this through your thick head behind every bot is a person and in this case they are taiwanese, no racism just facts. There is no doubt where the whispers are coming from, but, not saying this is the only country, just the main one. Taiwanese!

Proof?
Beyond doubt?
And do you have the right to judge that?
So to come to a conclusion like that:
1. you'd need to know the procedure to figure that out
2. you'd need to know what evidence must be presented to to show that the abstract premise is proven
3. you'd need to prove some sort of intent
4. and then - which is kinda the point all normal users fail on - you'd need to be a subject that is allowed to make that decision
This kind of procedures overrules your logic.
Otherwise it's back to the wild wild west where everyone takes justice in their own hands.

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Originally Posted by carnage-runner

YAY RACISM!!! A "group", lets call them today, has been accused of harboring "bad", lets call them, GW community members. It's been connected with the return of Taiwan. Look at some facts:

1) Taiwan goes away, whispers go away
2) Taiwan comes back, whispers come back

Don't pull the racist card because it's juvenile. Don't overlook obvious observations because it is very stupid. Taiwan is doing what we all can see... I WANT THIS RTM SH!T IN EFFECT SO THAT THEY CHANGE THIS STUPID F---ING DROP RATE!!!! So that i can make some money for once in a while.

Observation. Fine.
Making "logical" conclusions out of those observations. NOT fine.
Simply because it's not our place.